Eugene Lang, Interim Director of SPS, and Ian Brodie joined John Ivison's National Post podcast in a discussion about the memorandum of understanding struck between Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. There is trouble ahead on the industrial carbon price the federal government reportedly wants to impose, and on the carbon capture and storage project that Carney hopes will “decarbonize” Western oil. This realization is starting to hit federal and provincial officials.